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We don’t have to look too hard to find many equally tragic events in history, and many are open to discussion. That said, I have found an exchange of ideas, is more productive than an intellectual P!ssing match.

At this point in this debate, we will just mimic the same ideas we originally stated, in different ways, and little progress will be made. I hope we can have a few more discussions like this on different topics, maybe one of us will eventually admit we are wrong about something (but I doubt it). Be well.

The illegality of denying the Holocaust in response is a poor response by governments that were explicitly or implicitly guilty of supporting the Holocaust or failing to stop it. That is a different issue. People are allowed to disagree with viewpoints or stances or aspects of the event, but to disagree with an obvious fact is one of the most ridiculous ideas. Aspects of the Holocaust can be further researched, yet the matter as a whole is real.

Tell me how denying the truth is not advocating such violence. Do we forget that the Turks have almost eradicated the memory of the Armenian genocide? To deny such brutality is to allow such brutality to go unnoticed and unpunished. We need to remember the past or else we are doomed to repeat it. Ask the Romans–they paid this price.

We don’t want a world where there is no dissent. We need dissent where it is helpful and can bear fruit. Certain kinds of knowledge need refinement. This matter does not. Because certain individuals labeled ideas as a priori when they were not does not mean that all a priori facts are possibly flawed.

Also, just because there are few indisputable facts does not mean that there aren’t more. On earth, the sun rises in the east. That’s indisputable. What is disputable is why there are so few human beings that work for peace.

For your information, the dark ages are named that because our knowledge of them is dark. Those ages themselves can and will be shown to be illustrious and information-filled. Nice move, but there is no meaning there. Pride can be a virtue or a vice, my fellow Christian, depending on what aim it desires to attain. To plant doubt in the mind of those not yet nocent or those without knowledge can lead them to horrible ends. History teaches that lesson over and over again.

I respect your position very much, but discretion suggests we should be more feeling and less willing to be insensitive to the real pain and suffering of others. To deny the hardship of concentration camp prisoners is one of the lowest and most inhumane moves.

This is why I am only arguing the rights of these groups and individuals to have their opinions. I am a Christian, but I do not call Atheists ignorant. There are very few undisputed facts, is a priori knowledge indisputable?

You are stating that the Holocaust is an indisputable fact, but obviously it is not, because there are people who do not believe it happenned. As you know, it is illegal in many European countries to deny the Holocaust, yet if it is such a self evident truth, why would you put people in prison for an opinion on a Historical event?

The overall point is, how can these groups or people convince anyone that it did not happen? Which basically means they are no threat to anyone. Even if they could convince some people that it did not happen, so what? Now we want a world where any dissenting thoughts are suppressed? Isn’t that the catalyst that caused things like the dark ages and Nazi Germany to occur?

If those groups were to advocate repeating the Holocaust, then they should be banned, but not for merely having an opinion on it. What next facebook bans every ignorant person?